Tutmosis 18:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC) Merge Kunzite 05:02, 25 November 2006 (UTC) I'm confused, I'm not objecting to it. Tutmosis 22:52, 24 November 2006 (UTC) I added the section the "should not include" section because it's frequently citied in deletions of game-guide style articles and lists and it's a Wikipedia policy related to this subject.
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Or does that fall into one of these: "tutorials, walk-throughs, instruction manuals, and video game guides"? I dont think it does because it doesn't guide/teach you how to play, it just lists everything from the game. Kunzite 16:17, 24 November 2006 (UTC) Extensive details on gameplay Ĭan we add to that "should not include" paragraph that game articles should not contain extensive detail on gameplay such as lists of characters, buildings, units, etc.
I also think that this has the potential to be mis-interpreted. I c e d K o l a ( Contribs) 15:41, 24 November 2006 (UTC) I think this may be included because of Anime-related games such as Air (series).
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Feel free to change this guideline any way you wish while it's being discussed. Other than that, nice work! ( Radiant) 12:40, 24 November 2006 (UTC) You have a point, but I'm sure it's possible for a small (at the time non-notable) game to be made into a very popular or atleast fairly popular movie. Is #4 (movie based on the game) actually possible without meeting #1 or #2? It sounds a bit redundant to me. However, an inquiry: does anyone have any examples of games which pass 3 or 4 but don't pass 2? JoshuaZ 02:28, 24 November 2006 (UTC) Query If those two are taken out I'm fine with this. Criteria 5 is vague and it isn't clear to me why we should care about it anyways. Many games are developed by companies which are completely unnotable. Selmo ( talk) 23:40, 17 December 2006 (UTC) Object to two criteria and a question Ĭriterion 1- The game was developed by a company that passes Wikipedia's notability guidelines on companies, or was developed by a person that passes Wikipedia's notability guidelines on people.
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This would mean games like like Garry's mod shouldn't be deleted, even though it had no major impact in the gaming community. Right now, all of the criteria leaves me with the assumption that any game mentioned by the media deserves an article. Most of the computer games ever created aren't covered by the current awards criteria - Doug Bell talk 17:03, 24 November 2006 (UTC) I agree that there should be criteria that affects older games and possibly newer ones.
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You also haven't listed awards from the Software Publishers Association. Kunzite 16:17, 24 November 2006 (UTC) Then the same could be said for new games, so why have any awards-based criteria? The whole concept that you have only awards won from a show is biased towards new games since computer games existed long before shows about computer games. "High" sales figures with no basis for comparison or "historical significance" without citations to prove such a status. multiple non-trivial citations, sales figures above a certain point, etc.) I think the above proposals insert too many subjective criteria. I think that notability guidelines need to have OBJECTIVE criteria (i.e. Notability inclusion guidelines are not only good for determining what stays in Wikipedia, but for cleaning up notable articles by requiring citation. Doug Bell talk 23:22, 23 November 2006 (UTC) Wouldn't the majority, if not all, games that reached the top 10 rankings list in a magazine have multiple non-trivial write-ups? I think that this would relax the standards too much. I may try to contribute later, but as this is related to an active RfA on me at this time, I think it would be a conflict of interest to do so until it closes. In short, I think this is a start, but needs much work. Also, there is no mention of sales records as a indication of notability. Other games prior to 1980 have historical significance due to their place in the evolution of games. I would suggest that any game that achieved a top 10 rating in at least two consecutive months would rate. For the 1980s and early 1990s, Computer Gaming World was one of the premier authorities on game ranking and notability. Computer and video games have a much longer history than three years and this guideline needs to address the entire range of games.
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Since the Spike TV Video Game Awards only started in 2003, it is hardly adequate for determining notability of games produced before 2003. One concern I have with the criteria proposed so far is that it only seems to address notability of new games. I think it is good that this guideline is getting started.
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